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bill clinton, you don't have to agree with bill clinton but if anybody knows the game of politics, the only way to get something done is shut the door, while the media shrieking that things are done in secret. let me tell you, the toughest part of leadership is be in a room for exhaustion period of time. and saying guys, will you shut up when you leigh here, because i think we are getting close. out the door they go an then suddenly there is a light from a television camera. and then two or three of those guys just like a giant moth just go over to it. what went on in there? well, i had to leig leave becaue they were falking about a tax increase. god bless him. the other guy said i had to leigh because they talk about doing something with precious entitlements. thank god you did. it's b.s. and vagary and tragic. >> bret: what do you think will happen? you know the deal here. you know what is going on. what do you think is going to happen? >> guest: i hope i don't see anything more like statement of leadership on both sides that say i think if we go over the fiscal cliff it will help th
bill clinton, you don't have to agree with bill clinton but if anybody knows the game of politics, the only way to get something done is shut the door, while the media shrieking that things are done in secret. let me tell you, the toughest part of leadership is be in a room for exhaustion period of time. and saying guys, will you shut up when you leigh here, because i think we are getting close. out the door they go an then suddenly there is a light from a television camera. and then two or...
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secretary of state hillary clinton says that the u.s. stands by the syrian people and not president assad. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> meanwhile, senator john mccain has said that the u.s. needs to take action. >> we do know absolutely that these weapons have been readied for use by bashar assad's aircraft. we urge the president of the united states to make whatever military preparations are necessary. >> joining me now, joel ruben. thank you for joining me. have they already crossed the red line that the president put out for intervention? should the u.s. intervene, as senator mccain is asking for? >> the situation in syria is something we've never seen before. we have a country collapsing and this country has significant weapons of mass destruction. syria has not signed a chemical weapons convention. they have not, however, moved to use thes
secretary of state hillary clinton says that the u.s. stands by the syrian people and not president assad. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> meanwhile, senator john mccain has said that the u.s. needs to take action. >> we do know absolutely that these weapons have been readied for use by...
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it's former president bill clinton. he's nominated for his book "back to work." my colleague and friend, rachel maddow was nominated for her book "drift." incredible. but i'm disappointed. there's some serious snubs this year. i mean, how did this fellow performer not make the list. ♪ >> that deserved something. and mitt romney's tough year just got tougher. look at this snub. ♪ o beautiful for spacious skies for amber waves of grain ♪ ♪ for purple mountains majesty, above the fruited plain ♪ >> and perhaps the biggest snub of all, not jusn
it's former president bill clinton. he's nominated for his book "back to work." my colleague and friend, rachel maddow was nominated for her book "drift." incredible. but i'm disappointed. there's some serious snubs this year. i mean, how did this fellow performer not make the list. ♪ >> that deserved something. and mitt romney's tough year just got tougher. look at this snub. ♪ o beautiful for spacious skies for amber waves of grain ♪ ♪ for purple mountains...
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this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who does not believe in unicorns, pink or otherwise, mr. grover norquist. grover, what a day to have you on the show. thanks for joining us. >> absolutely. of course, you know, north korea and -- media announced they did find unicorns in north korea. >> we don't often take our cues from them. i am one that firmly believes in the existence of unicorns somewhere and hopefully maybe in this fiscal cliff deal. grover, the first question i have for you is this, your pledge, the pledge that many republicans have signed on to, opposes any and all efforts to increase marginal income tax rates and opposes any net re
this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who...
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instead of going up to 39.6, which was the top rate that clinton set, it's down to 35 now. they move to 37, and republicans are a critical number of republicans in the house are able to say, well we didn't give if all the way. we got the best deal we could and held them to 37%. from the democrats' standpoint after fighting it for a decade, do you think it's good enough to get to 37%? >> normally that's where a compromise is. whenever you legislate numbers and tax rates are always just the legislation of numbers, the place to compromise actually is on what that number is. now, there are two numbers that the obama side, the democrats want to change. there are two top rates. the 33 and the 35. under the obama plan, the 33 would go to 36, the 35 would go to 39.6. you know, if you're trying to negotiate a compromise, you can start to play with each one of those numbers and try to find something. the huge problem for the republicans on doing that is they're opposed to any kind of tax increase on principle. so it's very hard for them to go into the negotiations that way and say, w
instead of going up to 39.6, which was the top rate that clinton set, it's down to 35 now. they move to 37, and republicans are a critical number of republicans in the house are able to say, well we didn't give if all the way. we got the best deal we could and held them to 37%. from the democrats' standpoint after fighting it for a decade, do you think it's good enough to get to 37%? >> normally that's where a compromise is. whenever you legislate numbers and tax rates are always just the...
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. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. >>> speaking of chris christie, he gets what he's wanted his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways. that's ahead on "hardball," the place for politics. >>> welcome back to "hardball." time for the "sideshow." first, governor chris christie, as i said, is an outrageous bruce springsteen fan. he's been to over 100 of the boss' concerts, but self-proclaimed liberal bruce himself hasn't returned the love until lately. last night christie told jon stewart about meeting springsteen at the nbc telethon for hurricane sandy. >> i was on the stage afterwards talking to steve van zandt and max, and all of a sudden they were looking behind me. they moved away and stopped talking. so i turned around, and there he was. >> and there he was. >> there he was. >> and he gave you -- >>
. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. >>> speaking of chris christie, he gets what he's wanted his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways. that's ahead on "hardball," the...
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michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown" the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. anned former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work" why we need smart government for a strong economy. the returns for this ration will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. r heart health. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? house garden and encourages we'll be right bachouse garden we'll be right bachouse garden we'll be right bac >>> welcome back to "hardball." did republican efforts to suppress the vote backfire this time? in dozens of states they made effo
michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown" the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. anned former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work" why we need smart government for a strong economy. the returns for this ration will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. r heart...
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christie against clinton, one person very polite and the other -- wow -- >> speaking of chris christie gets what he wanted his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways ahead. this is "hardball," the place for politics. hanging out with. i have a great fit with my dentures. i love kiwis. i've always had that issue with the seeds getting under my denture. super poligrip free -- it creates a seal of the dentures in my mouth. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super poligrip is zinc free. with just a few dabs, it's clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat. super poligrip free made the kiwi an enjoyable experience. [ charlie ] try zinc free super poligrip. maybe you want to incorporate a business. or protect your family with a will or living trust. and you'd like the help of an attorney. at legalzoom a legal plan attorney is available in most states with every personalized document to answer questions. get started at legalzoom.com today. and now you're protected. olaf gets great rewards for his small bu
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that is what bill clinton is saying. he told an audience in sacramento that all the warnings of bloom and doom are political theater. quote now, the american people people are going to be sick when they watch it. it's just a kabuki dance, two dogs meating each other over a piece of meat they are sniffing each other out, end quote. always colorful. is that what is going on? >> reporter: there's been a lot of sniffing here in washington. i don't know if they like what they are spelling down here on either side on the deal. yeah, people have been describing it like that, some people said it's like a scorpian dance, you know, they are kind of stalking each other and waiting to get in that room and make the deal. erskine bowles said something similar that, both sides can't really talk about what it's going to be, because they would get pummeled by the base if either side really knew what they are going to in the end agree to. that is the hopeful optimistic side that a deal will be reached. there is another side that says, thi
that is what bill clinton is saying. he told an audience in sacramento that all the warnings of bloom and doom are political theater. quote now, the american people people are going to be sick when they watch it. it's just a kabuki dance, two dogs meating each other over a piece of meat they are sniffing each other out, end quote. always colorful. is that what is going on? >> reporter: there's been a lot of sniffing here in washington. i don't know if they like what they are spelling down...
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that i think that hoops that republicans are going through to find an alternative to raising raters on clinton era rates. it could get so ca complicated d get worse. when you talk mortgages and charities and everything else. why not raise rates on rich, fight for a simp her tax system that -- simpler tax system that might provide lower taxes down the road. >> well we need to demand concessions on spending. neil: we're not getting them. >> that is the point, so putting up taxes is not a way of getting concessions in the future. neil: from the get go they put up that 800 billion figure. >> a starting point, the problem is that, as you know, not only will the democrats want more in taxes, but they have in place, with this horrible deal that was done a year and a half ago with debt sealing that gives deal -- there is a deal in place. and it recalls that fiscal cliff, but the deal of made a year and a half ago, the republicans, democrats and president signed off on this, allowing tax increases to go back in place. and they signed on to half a trillion in cuts, in domestic programs and half a trilli
that i think that hoops that republicans are going through to find an alternative to raising raters on clinton era rates. it could get so ca complicated d get worse. when you talk mortgages and charities and everything else. why not raise rates on rich, fight for a simp her tax system that -- simpler tax system that might provide lower taxes down the road. >> well we need to demand concessions on spending. neil: we're not getting them. >> that is the point, so putting up taxes is...
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>> secretary clinton met with the foreign minister of russia a couple of days ago. obviously russia has backed another loser, its propensity in these things. i think they even see this now. probably the best-case scenario is there's some sort of soft landing where assad is offered an exile deal, gets out of the picture. and then you start the retribution massacres and it could turn into something extremely ugly. the hope is russia will get on board and be constructive. the foreign minister said good things but we'll see what russia does. >> what does an intervention looks like? >> if chemical weapons are used, i think it looks a lot like the air strikes in libya. you have to destroy some of those major stockpiles of chemical weapons. if they start to lose control and there are fores that hezbollah might get ahold of them, you might see some special forces on the ground. the idea of chemical weapons, especially for close allies like israel getting into the hands of hezbollah is really frightening to them and us. short of military action, we're going to recognize the
>> secretary clinton met with the foreign minister of russia a couple of days ago. obviously russia has backed another loser, its propensity in these things. i think they even see this now. probably the best-case scenario is there's some sort of soft landing where assad is offered an exile deal, gets out of the picture. and then you start the retribution massacres and it could turn into something extremely ugly. the hope is russia will get on board and be constructive. the foreign...
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michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown," the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. and the former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work, why we need smart government for a strong economy." the returns for this race will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." did republican efforts to suppress the vote backfire this time? in dozens of states they made efforts to keep people, especially minorities and poor people, from getting to the ballot box. they shortened early voting periods. well, it didn't work. minority turnout remained steady from 2008, and in some states it increased, like ohio. some civil rights leaders say it was those attempts at voter suppression that drove voters out to vote even if it meant standing in line for hours. what is clear is the republican party has a deeper problem
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. >>> speaking on human rights at a university in dublin, secretary of state hillary clinton called for urgent dialogue to ease the unrest in egypt. >> we call on all the stakeholders in egypt to settle their differences through discussion and debate, not through violence. >> clinton also called on egypt's leaders to protect the country's promise of post-revolution democracy. >>> back here at home, as the fiscal cliff standoff continues in washington, the president took his plan out of town to northern virginia, where he sat down with a middle class family to talk about the potential impact they face from the looming fiscal cliff. it's now just 25 days away. nbc's tracie potts joins us with the details from washington. tracie, good morning to you. >> reporter: lynn, good morning. the white house has been all over social media with this one, asking what would happen if your family had to pay another $2,200 next year in taxes? 100,000 people responded, including that northern virginia family that the president met with yesterday. they said $2,200 for them is a couple months' rent. >> for
. >>> speaking on human rights at a university in dublin, secretary of state hillary clinton called for urgent dialogue to ease the unrest in egypt. >> we call on all the stakeholders in egypt to settle their differences through discussion and debate, not through violence. >> clinton also called on egypt's leaders to protect the country's promise of post-revolution democracy. >>> back here at home, as the fiscal cliff standoff continues in washington, the president...
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. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. >>> speaking of chris christie, he gets what he's wanting his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways. that's ahead on "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. ♪ open enrollment ends december 7th. so now's the time. visit medicare.gov or call 1-800-medicare. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it rais
. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. >>> speaking of chris christie, he gets what he's wanting his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways. that's ahead on "hardball," the...
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i imagine both secretary clinton and mr. brahimi would be lean on the russians to convince assad to leave power. he's finished in syria. there's no way he's going to emerge victorious. the only options for him are to lose and lose his life, most probability, or leave syria but certainly this civil war now more than 40,000 people dead, and with the latest problem with chemical weapons, the civil war has to be brought to an end. >> now, ambassador, both president obama and secretary of state clinton warned chemical weapons are the red line on syria. i also want to play something that defense secretary leon panetta had to say in reaction to the reports about the preparation of chemical weapons. let play that and talk about what diplomatic options are left. >> the president of the united states made very clear that there will be consequences. there will be conconsequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their own people. i'm not going to speculate or comment on what those potential
i imagine both secretary clinton and mr. brahimi would be lean on the russians to convince assad to leave power. he's finished in syria. there's no way he's going to emerge victorious. the only options for him are to lose and lose his life, most probability, or leave syria but certainly this civil war now more than 40,000 people dead, and with the latest problem with chemical weapons, the civil war has to be brought to an end. >> now, ambassador, both president obama and secretary of...
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there was a cute video of hillary clinton here in washington over the weekend. and it had a clip from you in there. play that little clip. ♪ you're amazing ♪ just the way you are >> i just have an instinct that the best is yet to come. >> lurt. all right. you said you have an instinct that the best is yet to come. what did you mean by that? >> well, i think, wolf, sometimes when you make an enigmatic comment, you're best to leave the enigma floating there. >> i understand completely what you're saying. prime minister, thanks, as usual, for joining us. appreciate it very much. >> thavngs, wolf. all the best. >> so if you take aspirin every day to prevent heart trouble, a baby aspirin, a regular as prinl, you might want to check the label. up next, our own doctor, sanjay gupta with details on what a new study says about the effects of coated tablets. not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i don't think so. [ male announcer ]
there was a cute video of hillary clinton here in washington over the weekend. and it had a clip from you in there. play that little clip. ♪ you're amazing ♪ just the way you are >> i just have an instinct that the best is yet to come. >> lurt. all right. you said you have an instinct that the best is yet to come. what did you mean by that? >> well, i think, wolf, sometimes when you make an enigmatic comment, you're best to leave the enigma floating there. >> i...
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michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown," the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. and the former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work, why we need smart government for a strong economy." the returns for this race will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. we'll be right back. ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein. ...to help keep rocky's body as strong as a love that never fades... if he ever lets her leave again. iams. keep love strong. >>> welcome back to "hardball." did republican efforts to suppress the vote backfire this time? in dozens of states they made efforts to keep people, especially minorities and poor people, from getting to the ballot box. they
michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown," the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. and the former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work, why we need smart government for a strong economy." the returns for this race will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. we'll...
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secretary clinton said she was not interested. politico reports actress ashley judd is seriously considering a run for 2014 against mitch mcconnell in his home state of kentucky. mcconnell's office warned he will not go easy on whoever the democratic challenger is but did not reference judd specifically. mitt romney is going back to work at his own job. marriott international has announced romney rejoined the board of directors after resigning two years ago. as for how much romney will earn, s.e.c. showed that directors received a base pay of $60,000 plus $1250 for every meeting they attended. romney has a long-time friendship with the members of marriott family and has served on the board off and on since 1993. >>> all right. time for the "news nation" gut check. bloomberg news is reporting that president obama is considering "vogue" anna wintor to be the next u.s. ambassador to the uk or france. she raised $500,000 for his re-election campaign. she's been at "vogue" for more than 25 years and they say she's very happy about the
secretary clinton said she was not interested. politico reports actress ashley judd is seriously considering a run for 2014 against mitch mcconnell in his home state of kentucky. mcconnell's office warned he will not go easy on whoever the democratic challenger is but did not reference judd specifically. mitt romney is going back to work at his own job. marriott international has announced romney rejoined the board of directors after resigning two years ago. as for how much romney will earn,...
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what was so bad about the 39.6% highest rate under bill clinton? the economy was pretty good under bill clinton and that grumbling from democrats, i think, will be helpful to, ironically, republicans because a lot of republicans on the right are going to be saying to boehner, we had pledged to grover norquist no tax increase at all and here you are agreeing to what is effectively a tax increase. and i think that both sides are going to have to give a little bit of something, and that 37% may be the golden median. >> doug, let's talk about the unemployment report that came out today. it shows 7.7% unemployment. you know, i know a lot of democrats want to say, oh, it's dropping, but it seems to me for months and months and months, the unemployment numbers have just remained awful. they move a little up and down, but they're just a mess. 12 million people unemployed. it seems to me that that could cut either way. republicans could still lean on that and say, you may be winning the pr war on this thing right now, but don't forget, you've got a big prob
what was so bad about the 39.6% highest rate under bill clinton? the economy was pretty good under bill clinton and that grumbling from democrats, i think, will be helpful to, ironically, republicans because a lot of republicans on the right are going to be saying to boehner, we had pledged to grover norquist no tax increase at all and here you are agreeing to what is effectively a tax increase. and i think that both sides are going to have to give a little bit of something, and that 37% may be...
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praised clinton in a more than ten-minute video tribute. take a look at this. >> strength, toughness, very strong streak of principle. >> i had the opportunity to work with her, to achieve ceasefire between israel and hamas. >> a strong and determined leader. >> politics as a mother, as a senator, the pinnacle up to now of her public service. >> one of the best secretary of states in american history and finally, hillary, a lot has been said about our relationship and here is what i know. you haven't just within one of my closest partners, you've become a great friend. >> yet this was not it at the 2016 convention yet. for those wondering if clinton may have politics in her faw tour listen to how the video wrapped up and secretary clinton's reaction. >> on the side of human rights, human dignity. more countries may have the same extraordinary good fortune that we've had. >> someone who knows a thing or two about political comeback, i can tell you i don't think we've heard the last of hillary clinton. ♪ girl, you're amazing just the way yo
praised clinton in a more than ten-minute video tribute. take a look at this. >> strength, toughness, very strong streak of principle. >> i had the opportunity to work with her, to achieve ceasefire between israel and hamas. >> a strong and determined leader. >> politics as a mother, as a senator, the pinnacle up to now of her public service. >> one of the best secretary of states in american history and finally, hillary, a lot has been said about our relationship...
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>>neil: but we know it is not returning to the clinton tax rates. as you pointed out between the sur taxes on the wealthy, medicare and everything else, you are at a were higher rate? >>guest: of course, this is higher. yes. and you are talking about much higher spending. remember, that government spending is taxation. these guys don't create resources. they redistribute the resources. what they have done here with this, they have had a huge increase in taxes which is why we have the very bad who we have today. it is, unfortunately, we are never going to bring the economy back unless we get control of the spending and get toward the low rate flat tax. can you not do it. >>neil: i don't think either side has offered enough on spending. i think it is baked into the cake it is the result of election and elections have consequences. but on the wealthy i think the rates go up but with the latest proposal, why see enough to adhere to what was the debt commission in cuts, is too little too late, but, too little, more to the point. >>guest: it is too little
>>neil: but we know it is not returning to the clinton tax rates. as you pointed out between the sur taxes on the wealthy, medicare and everything else, you are at a were higher rate? >>guest: of course, this is higher. yes. and you are talking about much higher spending. remember, that government spending is taxation. these guys don't create resources. they redistribute the resources. what they have done here with this, they have had a huge increase in taxes which is why we have...
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we have the same tax rates that we have when bill clinton was president. significant cuts in defense and also significant human services can you tell us. >> katie, let me ask you, before you respond to what governor dean is saying. there is logic to what howard dean is saying. i don't happen to agree with it. but i know where he's coming from. katie, let me ask you this -- katie can't hear me. we'll wait for her to get back hooked in. howard, what about the notion that i'm posing tonight -- i've said this a few times -- republicans better be careful. they're not going down your road and the democrats aren't going down your road. you have middle class tax cuts for the democrats and it sometimes sounds to me as an old reagan conservative that the republicans better watch themselves because sometimes it sounds like they are kind of defending rich people. that's their whole mantra, just defending rich people. and i think that's not where they should be. >> i would agree. if i were politically advising the republicans, which i'm certainly not, i think tom colts
we have the same tax rates that we have when bill clinton was president. significant cuts in defense and also significant human services can you tell us. >> katie, let me ask you, before you respond to what governor dean is saying. there is logic to what howard dean is saying. i don't happen to agree with it. but i know where he's coming from. katie, let me ask you this -- katie can't hear me. we'll wait for her to get back hooked in. howard, what about the notion that i'm posing tonight...
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budget and the clinton economic policies. they are saying we're not voting for a tax rise or a tax cut. we're kind of abstaining all around. well, if that's their position, fine. i think they call that not leading. >> secretary reich, what do you make of that? we talk about kibuki theater. is anything more kibuki than that, voting present instead of yes, abstaining instead of casting a vote one way or another? >> it's a game within a game within a game. and it's an insiders game. the fact of the matter is most americans, even if they're called republicans, even if they consider themselves conservatives, they understand that 98% of americans do deserve a tax cut, a continuation of the bush tax cuts. and they understand that the rich have never been as rich, and they've never paid an effective tax rate that is as low in living memory. if we have a budget deficit at all, it is only fair. and you don't have to be -- again you don't have to be a republican, you can be a common sense republican to understand that this requires that
budget and the clinton economic policies. they are saying we're not voting for a tax rise or a tax cut. we're kind of abstaining all around. well, if that's their position, fine. i think they call that not leading. >> secretary reich, what do you make of that? we talk about kibuki theater. is anything more kibuki than that, voting present instead of yes, abstaining instead of casting a vote one way or another? >> it's a game within a game within a game. and it's an insiders game....
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same as bill clinton did with newt gingrich. get in the room and make the changes that are needed. >> the president wants to solve the problem. it's what he said in the campaign. it's what he's saying now. we cannot lurch from one crisis to the other. think of all the times tea party republicans and speaker boehner threatened to shut down the government over the debt ceiling. listen, if we are going to have this certainty for businesses to invest and know new jobs are being created we have to get this behind us. >> joining me now, dana millbank and kristina. it's great to have you both here. bob corker said the idea of raising taxes on the top 2% has merit. the question is how much merit it has with speaker boehner and the republican party. where disease it stand? >> we have been hearing more and more encouraging noises. the republicans have taken steps in that right direction. i wouldn't get too mesmerized. there's incentive for them not to strike a deal at least until the last deal. i think you can count on them to do the righ
same as bill clinton did with newt gingrich. get in the room and make the changes that are needed. >> the president wants to solve the problem. it's what he said in the campaign. it's what he's saying now. we cannot lurch from one crisis to the other. think of all the times tea party republicans and speaker boehner threatened to shut down the government over the debt ceiling. listen, if we are going to have this certainty for businesses to invest and know new jobs are being created we...
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clinton era 39.6%. do you think the democrats and republicans will agree to go down the middle there with about a 37% tax rate on the top 2%? >> alex, the fact is they've been talking about these issues for more than a year since those grand bargain talks between speaker boehner and president obama in 2011. and we know the shape of a likely deal. it would be exactly that. about a 37% tax rate hike for top earners in this country. we know that secretary geithner and president obama have spoken of being open to that idea. and john boehner did himself yesterday, although after he did so in a question and answer period with reporters he then put out a statement saying he wasn't really meaning to open that door. but we know the parameters of a deal. it likely will include some kind of tax rate hike, although not to clinton levels for top earners, and some savings in medicare and medicaid. i think that is the likely shape of the likely deal. >> meredith, louisiana's gop governor bobby jindal wrote an op ed th
clinton era 39.6%. do you think the democrats and republicans will agree to go down the middle there with about a 37% tax rate on the top 2%? >> alex, the fact is they've been talking about these issues for more than a year since those grand bargain talks between speaker boehner and president obama in 2011. and we know the shape of a likely deal. it would be exactly that. about a 37% tax rate hike for top earners in this country. we know that secretary geithner and president obama have...
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. >>> if the 2016 presidential election were held today, secretary of state hillary clinton would be a shoo-in. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll 57% would support clinton to succeed president obama. 37% would not. ted nugent weighs in on the fiscal cliff fiasco something he said we drove off a long time ago. he writes in "the washington times" social security, medicaid and medicare spending needs to be slaughtered and let's stop the insanity of the right to vote of any american on welfare. once they get off well taer and are self-sustaining they get their right restored. no american on welfare should have the right to vote for tax increases on those americans working and paying taxes to support them. >>> and "the daily show's" jon stewart says maybe we should go off the fiscal cliff. >> back and forth of offers. it's pretty clear the republicans aren't going to come to the table with anything reasonable. i'll be the one to say it, i know it will be disastrous and doom our economy for years to come, let's go over the [ bleep ] cliff. fine. just leave the negotiating
. >>> if the 2016 presidential election were held today, secretary of state hillary clinton would be a shoo-in. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll 57% would support clinton to succeed president obama. 37% would not. ted nugent weighs in on the fiscal cliff fiasco something he said we drove off a long time ago. he writes in "the washington times" social security, medicaid and medicare spending needs to be slaughtered and let's stop the insanity of the...
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as you know, clinton tax rates for wealthiest americans were 39.6%. that's what's going to happen at the beginning of the year. right now they are 35%. the president has been insisting all along those rates rise again but there's wiggle room here. president biden asked if it could be 37%, hedged on the question. even john boehner initial why when asked this question hedged a little bit. speaking of republicans, a rising star, senator marco rubio had this response in the weekly gop response to the president. >> we must get the national debt under control. tax increases will not solve our $16 trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of sbilgsment programs will help control the debt. we must reform our complicated uncertain job killing tax code by getting rid of unjustified loopholes. but our goal should be generating revenue by creating new taxpayers not new taxes. >>> so alex, the question, your initial question, can it get done? the answer is yes. joe biden joked yesterday he could run it up to the hill from the white house in 15 minutes and r
as you know, clinton tax rates for wealthiest americans were 39.6%. that's what's going to happen at the beginning of the year. right now they are 35%. the president has been insisting all along those rates rise again but there's wiggle room here. president biden asked if it could be 37%, hedged on the question. even john boehner initial why when asked this question hedged a little bit. speaking of republicans, a rising star, senator marco rubio had this response in the weekly gop response to...
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i mean, if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton, supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. and it's part of this cultural thing with our consultants. you start out thinking giving away 47% of the country, by the way, which included retirees, veterans. you know, it was an absurdity. and i think this is much more than mitt romney. we didn't blow it because of mitt romney. we blew it because of a party which has refused to engage the reality of american life and refused to take -- to think through what the average american needs for a better future. >> but recall what you said about 1964. in december 1964, lyndon johnson was re-elected. goldwater was finished. it was the end of the republican party. and at the end, the republicans nominated a man named richard nixon. and he became president. unthinkable. >> so you can have a campaign between hillary clinton and jeb bush, representing 36 years of bushes on na
i mean, if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton, supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. and it's part of this cultural thing with our consultants. you start out thinking giving away 47% of the country, by the way, which included retirees, veterans. you know, it was an absurdity. and i think this is much...
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hillary clinton about 2016. she says that it is flattering, i'm not interested. >> she does not really say that. anybody who saw the video that introduced her at the conference last weekend would have no doubt that she has least thinking seriously about running. it is like the video that you show at a convention. >> a week is a lifetime in politics, and 3 or four years is literally an eternity. but hillary clinton is remarkably advantageous position at this moment. one that would have been unimaginable after the disastrous campaign, and let's be frank, internally it was a disastrous campaign in 2008, where she started out as the prohibitive front-runner and favorite. but now she is rehabilitated. there are second acts in america. she has had a second act and it has been terrific. >> i recall that prior to that election we were talking about hillary clinton and rudy giuliani as the candidates, prohibited the favorites. >> in that election i said neither one would be the nominee and that turned out to be the k str
hillary clinton about 2016. she says that it is flattering, i'm not interested. >> she does not really say that. anybody who saw the video that introduced her at the conference last weekend would have no doubt that she has least thinking seriously about running. it is like the video that you show at a convention. >> a week is a lifetime in politics, and 3 or four years is literally an eternity. but hillary clinton is remarkably advantageous position at this moment. one that would...
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that's how it worked in the clinton years. that's how every deal we've gotten with the president has worked. that's how this deal will work. >> you're not going to get a majority of the majority unless there's significant cuts. the president needs to understand john boehner is the best -- the best negotiating partner he's going to ever have. and he's got to also understand conservatives, you know, i've been talking about republicans improving their brand, being more cooperative. i wouldn't vote for a deal to raise taxes in a million years. unless there were significant real substantial spending cuts on the other side. so -- >> don't cave. compromise. as you said. >> don't cave, compromise. >> congressmen kris van hollen and tom cole. >> we appreciate it. >> good luck. i hope you get it done. you're going to get it done. david gregory, thank you as well. >> thank you, david. >> you bet. >>> coming up, senator claire mccaskill will be here, my favorite senator. >> the luckiest senator, in fact, this past year. >> oh, cokie rober
that's how it worked in the clinton years. that's how every deal we've gotten with the president has worked. that's how this deal will work. >> you're not going to get a majority of the majority unless there's significant cuts. the president needs to understand john boehner is the best -- the best negotiating partner he's going to ever have. and he's got to also understand conservatives, you know, i've been talking about republicans improving their brand, being more cooperative. i...
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if their competitor in 16 is going to be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably a still-popular president barack obama, trying to winl that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> dana? >> newt gingrich's crystal ball has had some difficulties before because he predicted that this year we would have president newt gingrich, which didn'texac pated. he makes a valid point about hillary. it's not that surprising. but also, and i think we've discussed this before, it seemed very likely that the party that won in 2012 would be in a formidable position in 2016 because of where the economy is likely to be because of where it was in 2012. so the incumbent party, the democrats in this case, are going to be in a very strong position. and if hillary is the nominee, obviously, she's going to be the beneficiary of that. >> i just love a world where after being bill clinton's presidency, now gingrich is one of the great clinton champions, along with much of the republican party. it has been fast nating to see the republicans emb
if their competitor in 16 is going to be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably a still-popular president barack obama, trying to winl that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> dana? >> newt gingrich's crystal ball has had some difficulties before because he predicted that this year we would have president newt gingrich, which didn'texac pated. he makes a valid point about hillary. it's not that...
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we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. the line between freedom and tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you could raise -- at 4% a year over the next ten year, twice as much as you could from allowing the bush tax rates to lapse. why the income tax system is overburdened in the united states. we use it too much. we should be looking at other taxes. we can't do it in 29 days. why are we doing it in 29 days? >> but the president ran on raises taxes, right? if you look at the polls. 60% of people support raising taxes on people who make over $250,000 a year. how much of a problem is it, david, if the republicans you know, tom coburn said he does not want to raise that tax number. >> the pr
we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. the line between freedom and tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you...
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four days ago we offered a serious proceed proceeds albased on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counter offer from the white house. instead reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending the president wants to raise tax rates. even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion-dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. listen, washington has got a spending problem not a revenue problem. if the president doesn't agree with our proposal i believe that he's got an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own, a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. we are ready and eager to talk to the president about such a plan. >> you did speak with the president earlier this week, can you characterize that call? did he have any kind of counter offer? also, we understand that he is making clear that it's got to be
four days ago we offered a serious proceed proceeds albased on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counter offer from the white house. instead reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending the president wants to raise tax rates. even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we...
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. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. speaking of chris christie he gets what he's wanting his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways. that's ahead on "hardball," the place for politics. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great businesses deserve great rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? here's your invoice. i tell them dentures are very different to real teeth. they're abo
. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. speaking of chris christie he gets what he's wanting his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways. that's ahead on "hardball," the place for...